>> Hello and thanks for joining us on Chicago tonight.

I'm Brandis Friedman.

Here's what we're looking at.

>> arleady trails of tears and chaos.

>> Words that many Border Patrol agents are planning on leaving Chicago as soon as this week.

>> We'll never forget those who serve.

>> As the city honors veterans, those who served in the military, local veterans are bracing for more federal cuts.

>> And warnings of an AI market bubble, some say is set to burst what it could mean for workers and the economy.

First off tonight, the face of President Trump's ramped up immigration enforcement operations in Chicago is reportedly planning to leave the city as early as this week.

Border Patrol Chief Greg Bovino along with some of his agents are expected to head to Charlotte, then continue on to New Orleans.

The potential move comes just days after a federal judge issued a preliminary injunction blocking use of force against protesters and journalists unless, quote, objectively necessary to stop an immediate threat.

The order also requires agents to warn protesters at least twice before deploying tear gas.

The Trump administration is appealing the order.

Governor JB Pritzker today reacted to reports that many agents could be leaving Chicago.

>> Whether it was the last in the elections a week ago that's led to Donald Trump deciding to pull CBP out or the fact that Greg Bovino is a snowflake on a day when you can see some snowflakes.

Whatever it is, the people of Chicago have deserve better than having CBP and Greg Bovino in this city.

But I would not say that we're now going to be free of these terrorized neighborhoods because ice and CBP probably will still be here, though.

They will have fewer people and we'll have to continue to protect our neighbors and our friends and our families.

>> Despite the reports from multiple outlets, Homeland Security is Tricia McLaughlin says on social media, quote, We aren't leaving Chicago while also claiming there's been a drop in violent crime since Operation Midway Blitz began.

We should, of course, no violent crime in Chicago had already been on the decline before the operation began.

After what he calls the hardest days of his life.

Republican Darren Bailey says he plans to remain in the race for Illinois governor after the death last month of his son, daughter-in-law and 2 grandchildren.

>> Zach Kelsey believed Illinois where families can build a future without being crushed by bad government and broken promises.

They believe this man >> In a 3 minute video posted on social media, Bailey explains he and his wife Cindy did a lot of praying and reflecting before arriving at their decision.

Bailey is a farmer and former state lawmaker who says he also received encouragement from President Trump to, quote, keep fighting.

And on this veterans day, local and state officials honor those who've served with a wreath laying at the soldier Field Memorial Water Wall to honor fallen service members along with a moment of silence.

>> Among several events today, the city's annual Veterans Day commemoration ceremony included a keynote speech from the Illinois National Guard director of the Joint staff.

>> The general who came to the U.S.

from Mexico at 6 years old and grew up in Little Village before going on to serve in uniform, including deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan.

>> That's where I learned that being an American is not what you where you were born.

It's about what you're willing to give.

Those early lessons shaping.

I can tell you that because when I put on this uniform over the past 34 years, it hasn't been just to serve my country but its to get back to the city to the people who gave everything to me.

>> Up next, local veterans in the ongoing battle for services will hear from them right after this.

>> a in by the Alexandra and John Nichols the gym and K maybe family.

The Pope Brothers Foundation and the support of these donors.

>> Thousands of local veterans are feeling the impact of sweeping federal cuts and funding freezes as the government shutdown continues.

That's relying on food assistance are facing extra challenges.

Some some advocates say that they're worried about the future of veterans benefits as staffing cuts hit agencies like the U.S.

Department of Veterans Affairs and those pressures didn't go unnoticed at local gatherings to commemorate Veterans Day.

>> I no longer stand where I once did on the battlefield abroad.

But I find myself on one still here at home.

In the heart of a nation.

I love fighting not with weapons, but with the truth with resolve.

And with a new renewed sense of purpose.

And I invite you all to join me.

Not in fear, but encourage.

Not in despair, but hope.

>> Joining us now with more our 36th Ward Alderman Gilbert Villegas, who represents part of the north northwest side like Belmont Craig Portage Park.

He's also a former U.S.

Marine Nick J Sick an employee at the Jesse Brown VA Medical Center.

He served in the U.S.

Air Force and Gabriel VA Gomez, Veterans Services director at Kennedy King College.

Also a former Marine.

Gentlemen, thank you for joining us and thank you for your service So we just heard about this new battlefield that veterans are having to navigate once leaving service.

Nick, that basic you work with veterans were struggling with mental health and substance abuse at Jesse Brown.

What are some of the challenges that veterans are facing in getting health care?

I think.

>> In the context of substance use and mental health.

One of the things that I want to point out is there's an executive order a couple months ago calling for the abolition of harm reduction services as well as VA Secretary Doug Collins mentioning that homeless programs and suicide prevention programs are ineffective.

Those are programs that I have benefited from greatly harm reduction, suicide prevention and homelessness.

Those are all services that I received my own recovery at the VA.

And so to hear the abductions are just not interrupt you.

But just so that people know what it is.

It is, of course, providing other drugs to box zones and such to help come off of the to help stabilize after the use opioids.

Accurate?

Yeah.

Medication assisted treatment injuries.

The common form of harm reduction.

And so to hear these things under attack and >> potentially in the future, getting them repealed is very scary there is no alternative service that can be provided in the community despite claims otherwise.

It's a lot of challenges that in getting the care that you need based on some moves that this administration has made.

>> Gabriel, you're a Marine veteran honorably discharged in 2013 coming out of service.

You went through your own sort uncertain transition period.

Was that like for you?

was honorably discharged in 2013.

And I do believe >> recall that for that first year, that period of uncertainty.

All right.

I serve my country now.

I'm joining a society again.

What is my future going to look like who can I rely on?

I feel very fortunate to have relied on are come.

Some lacrosse for the great mentors are in that first year.

And I think those mentors have stay with me as an inspiration to become an advocate for veterans exiting service, connecting them with resources with opportunities even now does too help them find a pathway to employment through the power of partnerships.

One of those would be the utility military assistance program with people's gas.

Weeds has allowed to please over 800 veterans since its inception 12 years ago.

300 plus alone during my tenure with city colleges connecting them with high income paying jobs as utility workers.

And I do want to extend gratitude to all they're going to be a dozen.

The 36 ward for helping with the first and being a partner in this mission of disseminating that information connecting veterans with jobs.

I imagine your own experience probably helps you have a better understanding of what what veterans need.

That might be different from, you know, a typical student Katie King.

>> Yeah, most definitely not.

Just in terms of applying getting accepted into the college but all supportive services to have a somebody that even not just veterans but still service member of the guard and the national reserves.

>> Who might have their their out their service obligations to the country will.

Now we have every city college is a quick with one of those advocates to make sure that their professors and the administration understands what they need to do and make sure that they're not penalize to have all the support that they need.

So according to the U.S.

Department of Veterans Affairs, there are over half a million vets in Illinois.

>> In the state there is one Veterans Benefits, administration regional office, 5 inpatient care sites.

36 outpatient sites and 11 vet centers.

All going to be a How would you describe the state VA care local in?

>> You know, it's very frustrating that the men and women that serve this country.

I'm not for the opportunity for reliable healthcare, reliable jobs, reliable housing.

At the local level, we and we see that.

And that's why we've put forward veteran affairs office that that sets the tone and really collaborate with other entities, whether in the Cook County are at at the federal government or state government to find out how we can bring these resources.

This when I discharged in 92 pretty Internet.

You know, I'm looking through the paper for an opportunity and similar to Gabriel trying feel it realized what my purposes I went from full employment, a purpose to unemployment and trying to figure out my future look like and so I always said that if I was ever in a position to effectuate change, which I am now we'll put programs in place with the city.

We put programs in place despite the federal government not stepping up.

So we took a look at increasing the Affordable shocked that the affordable housing 10%, of that goes to veterans.

Took a look at veterans preference for positions and also we created veteran business Enterprise program for those entrepreneurs, veterans that want to be entrepreneurs.

Again, we're we're going to we're not going to rely on the federal government as local government going to step up and make sure that the men and women that rose their their right hand to defend this country are enough.

They're not forgotten.

Now among some of the cuts that the VA has implemented, you know, they say that the terminated union contracts, which covered here on this program some months ago.

>> For most bargaining unit employees, they say that that money has been redirected from wasteful union spending back to the veterans be into the dei department, which they say is a 14 million dollar savings for the for Department.

Nick Disability pay and other VA benefits, though, weren't impacted by this current shutdown.

But what has been the impact for veterans who rely on services like SNAP and Medicaid, which have been impacted?

>> He's been pretty significant rate.

I want I want also, you know, comment that I want to separate people who work at the VA from the administration themselves because the people who provide services at the VA outstanding, dedicated public servants, including myself in are not representative of the administration at the local level rate, but people have not been able to file.

We're checking on their school benefits with the BA closed.

No new disability claims are able to be filed right now, which is extremely problematic.

Great when people are ready to go in and get those services that they need as well as we have a number of veterans who are coming in saying, I don't know where I'm going to get my food from rate and they don't have enough in their retirement or savings to cover that rate.

So thankfully, community members are stepping up and people are still asking, you know, or when is the hammer going to drop?

And housing benefits going to get pulled, not saying that they will.

But you know, people are asking people are scared.

Only Villegas.

We've seen ice rates aggressively ramping up all over the city with also seen him especially targeting.

>> Little village.

There have been some cases nationally of noncitizen veterans being arrested by federal agents.

What do you say to the veterans who are worried that that could happen to them?

>> You know, I'm really, really frustrated that ripped Republican congressman are not actually be a check on this administration.

We see that right now.

Republicans hold the president, the White House, they hold the Senate and the House and they hold the Congress and they should be really focused on putting forward a pathway to immigration to eliminate the fear and really stop throwing red meat to Trump's base.

Reality is that they're in charge.

Want to go ahead and put forward a pathway to citizenship.

want to secure the border.

Let's have that discussion.

But the reality is that there are in charge and they need to make sure that the putting forward a path, 11 million people that are your neighbors are not going anywhere.

And so as the federal government needs to step up, these are folks that are contributing and those veterans that have served the fact that that the Supreme Court has said, hey, anyone who looks like they may belong here, ice, you have the opportunity to arrest them.

Is it again?

It just goes against everything that America stands Gabriel, several local veterans today they organized to push back against the Trump administration and several veterans services today.

Typically when you are serving in the military, that is not something that you can do.

>> What do you make a veteran communities mobilizing in this way?

>> I believe that service extends beyond when you when are hangar, put away the uniform and I am glad to see my fellow brothers and sisters in arms advocating for those who can't and even within my scope of work, I want to follow that example.

And many of my colleagues as well by reminding our local community here in Chicago that veterans are more than a uniform and a gun uniform and a rifle.

But we are also community leaders engaging with the local communities here in Little Village here in Englewood, advocating for the rights of others and and integrating and collaborating together as you have has he done at this table right here tonight.

Thanks to the 3 of you for joining us and again for your service.

Alderman Governor Villegas.

>> Gabriel Va Gomez in adjacent.

Thanks to all of Thank you.

Thank you Up next is the AI bubble about to burst or is it over height?

We dig in.

>> While Jenner generative AI might be useful for gathering information quickly are just fun to see what your dog would look like as a human.

It's also a technology that some are warning is on the bubble.

A recent study from MIT shows 95% of firms who adopted generative AI did not profit ringing the alarm for investors who flocked to the technology.

Joining us now with more, Steven Keith Platt director of the AI Business Consortium and Lab for Applied AI at Loyola University.

Chicago's School of Business and via Zoom.

We have Joel Shapiro, professor of data analytics at Northwestern University's School of Management and Ben Zhao Neubauer professor of computer science at the University of Chicago.

Gentleman, Welcome back.

Thank you for joining us.

Then let's start with you, please.

What is the state of AI market in the United States?

And why are some experts warning of an economic bubble?

that's a big question.

I where is I think it's at a stage where, you know, we're at the precipice of potentially very wide deployment.

>> And a lot of different modalities that different different lot of different fields.

But it's also at junction where I think a lot of the practitioners who are, you know, debating and thinking about deploying AI are actually still not quite Fiorina and knowledgeable enough about exactly what the technology can and cannot And so I think that's really the tire hitting the road that have a moment where a lot of industries are trying things.

And yet oftentimes in real time, the funny out when things don't quite apply in and when some of the marketing contract to be high.

And of course, that couple what the tremendous amount of actual capital investment in the market.

And, you in financial markets, that's where you have, you know, potential risk for a real public person.

>> Joe, how might it be difficult to measure the return on investment for AI integration for companies?

>> Yeah, I mean, look, everybody wants some sort of measurable our O-line.

You want to know that what they're putting in, they're going to get something out.

And then some part of the problem is that way in.

>> Companies see AI as truly.

Existential that are really is essential for their survival.

>> They're going to go forward with integrating it and figuring out how the bees AI-driven company N measuring the return on something that's all about survival kits really, really challenging.

You know, sometimes when we think about using AI for small-scale initiatives that really easy to sort of figure out what's the benefit once the costs, those are easier things to figure out.

I think the burden is on every company to sort of figure that out for themselves and those smaller scales.

The challenge becomes when, as I said, it becomes truly existential and companies undergo on transformations say we've got to do this on the West.

We're just simply not going survive.

And that's really hard to measure the benefit.

We're talking about something as big simply surviving.

So it really sort of all over the place depending on how eyes being deployed.

>> Stephen, Keep plant.

You've been working with large language models for nearly over a decade.

And we've seen trends like AI before, like the dot com bubble in the early 2.

Thousands think some of us called dot bomb times.

We've seen a focus on data, analytic analytics algorithms, the now AI, of course, has taken center stage.

Can you clarify what technology is being referred to when we're talking about AI adoption?

Generally when in the they typically refer janitor the AI chat gpt that are centered center.

>> But what a lot of people miss is there's a lot of other applications that are very practical and profitable.

Little been going on for years.

For example, you know, your basic and now.

>> Prediction algorithms that you could use for supply chain optimization truck route optimization.

These things have been around for years long before Gbt accent or became popular and the popular Press doesn't focus on that.

They focus on things like Mit report, which is extremely misleading, by the way.

>> say more about that because as we've referenced that in it report shows that 95% of firms that adopted generative AI didn't profit.

What's your concern with that report by concern is?

>> One only focuses on Jenna.

I win.

And that's a a segment on Also, they're the metrics that they use are basically broad scale adoption within an organization.

And that's just not always the case.

Joe mentioned UNOS implementing some, you solutions that are very practical and easy to execute.

For example, looking up an employee's health records or stuff like that.

These are these are not large-scale implementations.

They're cost effective to have a lot of productivity enhancing benefits that was not covered in an MIT study.

>> Been Joe, you've been outspoken advocate for the regulation of AI.

What are some of the guidelines that you think are necessary for the future as we further develop this technology.

>> lot of there.

But I think, you know, accountability and are probably some of the first things that come to mind.

You just like John and others have already said, you know, there is in many cases this feeling that, you know, this is all at the central and companies feel like they must.

And Gray said, you know, full on or else they're going to miss out.

And so, you know, that type of pressure has led, you know, not just AI developers, but also the application developers society at large.

Really think about this a must.

And along the way, we sort of push aside issues like copyright can you know, licensing, we've, you know, from the way issues of, you know, right publicity for personal images, right?

When models actually take over and mimic your face, your body, your voice and you can be used all sorts different applications.

So, you know, I would say perhaps, you know, right now we're really focused on transparency as something that, you know, it's probably the least controversial out many, many different degrees of tension, but certainly accountability for, you know, models.

I you know, in many cases inflict unintended put into the wrong hands and someone has to be accountable for what these models and of doing once they're released into the wild.

Right.

So I think these are really critical questions.

>> Joe, more and more companies are adopting AI into their workflow with hopes of reducing labor.

Most notably companies like Amazon who lost roughly 14,000 jobs because of AI for AI related reasons.

What does all this mean for workers in tech?

So.

>> To the extent that there's some sort of correction when we started talking about whether there's a bubble and that's always a hard thing to know when you're in the middle of that, of course, raises in retrospect, if there's a correction, it's definitely did.

intend is going venture markets.

You know, it's not going and all of the innovation and sort of what I think is most heartening about this.

I mean, job losses and it's really having a ball when you get these kinds really exciting technologies where there is over investment.

But what ends up happening, at least impasse.

Context like this is those mobiles, if you will, to financial infrastructure that later on tends to fuel the real growth.

When seem talked about It think part of the problem with the 95% some of the benefit that 95% failure rate.

Some of the benefit is still yet to come.

The impact AI and workforce.

It's going to be very and even it's going to replace some jobs.

But it's ultimately going to change how everybody works.

And that's very much still serve to be determined.

there's going to be some messiness serve as we get to whatever that equilibrium point we're going to get there, whether it's by a bubble or some sort of over investment.

But we're going to get there soon enough.

>> So what you're saying?

It's not replacing me just season.

20 seconds left.

You know, an AI landscape, do you think the existing laws protections around intellectual property, privacy, other protections?

Are those sufficient enough to adapt to where this technology is having?

I absolutely think so.

And I think there's a lot of hype about the need to regulate this industry.

There's plenty of >> laws that protect IP this play laws that protect IP intellectual.

going yet so that the rush to regulate, I think could have a negative impact on the growth of the industry.

That doesn't mean that ethics accent or shouldn't be addressed.

And morning mindful.

But there's plenty of this plenty to actions in place lost to work Obviously, we're going leave it to the 3 of you to take care that Stephen Keep led.

Joseph, your own bench out things everybody.

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