I think that we're never going to have a city do great if it's just the downtown doing great and the neighborhoods are not doing great as well.

So maybe you look at a city and you build it from the inside out like we're doing, but the neighborhoods are coming along to their credit as well.

And I think that when you have a city, a lot of the jobs in urban core or a lot of jobs, the cities are in the urban core.

So if there are jobs downtown, then hopefully a lot of people in neighborhoods are going to fill those jobs.

That's a big part of it.

But everything's connected to everything else.

As I said earlier, just like you invest, you're asking about the private investment.

I mean, just Henry Ford having that huge investment is just going to spawn off so many things, not just tending to restaurants, other things is to I mean, it's going to it's going to recruit high paid doctors and researchers to Henry Ford, who will pay taxes to the mayor's office, and he'll pay taxes and he'll do good things with it.

I mean, it just everything is connected to everything any way you look at it.

And I think that making big investments is very important.

We have to, as Detroit, make big bets.

I mean, what would Ford Motor Company and Bill Ford is doing at the train station?

That's a big bet.

General Motors moving to the Hudson site and then revisioning the Renaissance Center big that what we're doing at Hudson's is a big bet.

I mean, we need some big vans and we also need small bets as well.

But big bets at least get the they get things going and they get the capital moving to the city.

They're creating a lot of jobs.

I think we just need to think big in Detroit and Michigan for that matter.

The governor's Commission on Population reported, I think that which most of us already know, that growth is stagnation.

We're losing population still the state of Michigan.

Detroit, under the mayor's leadership, had a modest increase for the first time, I think, since 1957, and that's in large part to the work that you're doing.

I'll give you some more stats in the population.

So if you haven't read this for the 20 year period between 2020 20, Michigan grew the population 1% total.

The nation on average was 18%.

That's another thing that's got to we got to really work.

We've got to bring people here.

And I think starting with the retaining our own kids is the is the first place.

But there's other places as well.

So from a policy perspective, we've got a room full of policymakers and policy influencers.

Hear what needs to happen from a policy perspective to to allow that to hasten and catch up since we're so behind.

I think the the big three things that we have to look at are and again, I'm going back just to the young people.

So we've done all kinds of surveys on what they want and why would they move to one city versus another city.

I mean, affordable housing is key and it's not that's just not for young folks.

That's for everybody.

And we need to have a affordable housing.

We need to have you mentioned a few times we need to have a vibrant, dense, populated urban area where where there's action, where they can have fun and do their thing, whatever they do at night.

I'm not going to comment on what they do, but leads a lot of a lot of options, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I'm not going.

The third one is transportation.

I think all of them want transportation.

What specifically?

What kind of transportation?

All transportation.

I mean, I think we need transportation to and from the suburbs to and from the airport to and from Ann Arbor maybe to and from Chicago.

Eventually, we've got to have transportation everywhere.